Im sorry, but Im afraid I must disagree with you. I never really cared for the
video because I have seen others that actually present proof , and it is no real
surprise as to what would happen if the temperature does reach such a hight as
to start killing crops in regions. I do not at all like your example as to
Muslims and Americans, it is very stereotypical to say that just because someone
is of a certain religion that they are going to want to kill Americans. This
false situation does not relate to this man's argument because we are not
talking about killing people, but spending money to curb a disaster (Life vs
Money, Life vs Life). The reason Global Warming has been kept a myth is because
the government is not interested in spending money to make change, at least that
is what I think, its sad as well that the new Bali Roadmap is even less
effective than the Kyoto Protocol, at the request of the American Government,
Canada wasnt much better really, thanks to our Conservative Government. I have
seen several documentaries on global warming actually, the way the idea of such
a theory came about, was when scientists in Antarctica found that the yearly
temperature had risen in the last century. The way they track temperature back,
is by measuring the Oxygen bubbles in the ice, the size of the bubbles indicate
the temperature at that time, and since yearly snow falls compact into neat
distinguishable layers, it can be traced back even farther as older layers
compact into centuries and even farther. This is how we can see that is new
temperature is abnormal in the earth's temperature cycle. As well, there a
hurricanes that are the highest ever recorded, which can be traced the warming
oceans along with other odd weather patterns, as well as the dying coral reefs,
Glaciers are melting at alarming rates to the point of non-existence, a huge
chunks of the Antarctic roughly the size of Texas melted within a month (There
are factors involved, all brought on by the heating temperature), and thanks to
Global Dimming we have found out that the Global Temperature is rising almost
two times faster than expected, with it reaching 10 degrees (Celsius) higher
than normal by 2100, possibly even higher if the frozen methane at the bottom of
the ocean melts (approximately +13 if it all melts). You may ask for sources if
you like. Ill display them at your request.
I noticed that you and a many others are still refuting Kingray's arguments, yet
it has all come to naught.
I only have to say that you cannot reason with the "mentally ill":
Christianity was built on the foundation of society's rejects and idiots so how
could one expect it to have intelligent answers to the problems of the world?
Wistfully,
Sulibres
Very true, not really worth debating with them is it. Quite
a waste of time.
To Marfish:
Wether or not you believe in God or any other supreme being, I still think that
if you believe in some higher power... you'd have to believe that... that power
would want us all to have opinions and want us to have to discover things for
ourselves, making judgements using intellectual means or any other means.
Many religions will say that it is our choice to be the way we want to be...
evil, good, or a mix of the two... which also relates to your soul. Some
religions even believe that there is only good and evil, no *inbetween*. Also,
souls are a debate in many religions also. Either way, it all comes down to
beliefs... nomatter if you're theist or not. I think we're all debating many
personal belief systems and not actually the original topic.
---Actually, I'm a strong atheist. I dont believe there is a higher power or
ever was. I'm trying to discuss the flaws of the bible with the idea that god is
omnipotent and omniscient, and can still make mistakes. Lol, guess I do come off
sounding like I believe in a god.
Hello, that was my idea of a joke. Trying to befudle people or put in some dark
humour. Unfortunately I didnt read enough of the posts. To be honest, it would
have been a stupid post whether or not I had read them. If it bothers you,
either not post, or participate whole heartedly. Sorry for the
inconvenience.
merged: 08-01-2007 ~ 09:57pm
Hello, that was my idea of a joke. Trying to befudle people or put in some dark
humour. Unfortunately I didnt read enough of the posts. To be honest, it would
have been a stupid post whether or not I had read them. If it bothers you,
either not post, or participate whole heartedly. Sorry for the
inconvenience.
merged: 08-01-2007 ~ 09:58pm
sorry for the double post.
no need to be insulting, besides I thought we had a good conversation in the
forum. We had a good discussion and apparently george bush should not be labeled
as hitler as it is far too extreme a comparison.
Lol, random indeed. Hows it going Priincess?
Im sorry, but Im afraid I must disagree with you. I never really cared for the video because I have seen others that actually present proof , and it is no real surprise as to what would happen if the temperature does reach such a hight as to start killing crops in regions. I do not at all like your example as to Muslims and Americans, it is very stereotypical to say that just because someone is of a certain religion that they are going to want to kill Americans. This false situation does not relate to this man's argument because we are not talking about killing people, but spending money to curb a disaster (Life vs Money, Life vs Life). The reason Global Warming has been kept a myth is because the government is not interested in spending money to make change, at least that is what I think, its sad as well that the new Bali Roadmap is even less effective than the Kyoto Protocol, at the request of the American Government, Canada wasnt much better really, thanks to our Conservative Government. I have seen several documentaries on global warming actually, the way the idea of such a theory came about, was when scientists in Antarctica found that the yearly temperature had risen in the last century. The way they track temperature back, is by measuring the Oxygen bubbles in the ice, the size of the bubbles indicate the temperature at that time, and since yearly snow falls compact into neat distinguishable layers, it can be traced back even farther as older layers compact into centuries and even farther. This is how we can see that is new temperature is abnormal in the earth's temperature cycle. As well, there a hurricanes that are the highest ever recorded, which can be traced the warming oceans along with other odd weather patterns, as well as the dying coral reefs, Glaciers are melting at alarming rates to the point of non-existence, a huge chunks of the Antarctic roughly the size of Texas melted within a month (There are factors involved, all brought on by the heating temperature), and thanks to Global Dimming we have found out that the Global Temperature is rising almost two times faster than expected, with it reaching 10 degrees (Celsius) higher than normal by 2100, possibly even higher if the frozen methane at the bottom of the ocean melts (approximately +13 if it all melts). You may ask for sources if you like. Ill display them at your request.
Very true, not really worth debating with them is it. Quite a waste of time.
To Marfish:
Wether or not you believe in God or any other supreme being, I still think that if you believe in some higher power... you'd have to believe that... that power would want us all to have opinions and want us to have to discover things for ourselves, making judgements using intellectual means or any other means.
Many religions will say that it is our choice to be the way we want to be... evil, good, or a mix of the two... which also relates to your soul. Some religions even believe that there is only good and evil, no *inbetween*. Also, souls are a debate in many religions also. Either way, it all comes down to beliefs... nomatter if you're theist or not. I think we're all debating many personal belief systems and not actually the original topic.
---Actually, I'm a strong atheist. I dont believe there is a higher power or ever was. I'm trying to discuss the flaws of the bible with the idea that god is omnipotent and omniscient, and can still make mistakes. Lol, guess I do come off sounding like I believe in a god.
Dang, other side of the country. Nice, over there? Ive never actually been on that side of the country.
You write stories? Cool, you should post an excert or something.
merged: 08-20-2007 ~ 03:24am
Sorry, I ment excerpt. Just a small piece taken from the novel, usually a chapter or shorter.
Hey, My msn is marfish14@hotmail.com. I dont use it much anymore, but I'd like to read the articles you have there. Thanks
Hello, that was my idea of a joke. Trying to befudle people or put in some dark humour. Unfortunately I didnt read enough of the posts. To be honest, it would have been a stupid post whether or not I had read them. If it bothers you, either not post, or participate whole heartedly. Sorry for the inconvenience.
merged: 08-01-2007 ~ 09:57pm
Hello, that was my idea of a joke. Trying to befudle people or put in some dark humour. Unfortunately I didnt read enough of the posts. To be honest, it would have been a stupid post whether or not I had read them. If it bothers you, either not post, or participate whole heartedly. Sorry for the inconvenience.
merged: 08-01-2007 ~ 09:58pm
sorry for the double post.
no need to be insulting, besides I thought we had a good conversation in the forum. We had a good discussion and apparently george bush should not be labeled as hitler as it is far too extreme a comparison.